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Tuesday, 13. June 2017, 18:49

Power level items.

If i use a pbi,a expb and a 500% exp spell how much exp i can get?I really comfused with the spells.

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Tuesday, 13. June 2017, 19:12

Boosters don't count towards the limit (like e.g. DT), so you don't need spells. PBI (300%) with boosters (400%) gives you total 1200% exp (values multiply).

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Tuesday, 13. June 2017, 19:22

If i use a pbi,a expb and a 500% exp spell how much exp i can get?I really comfused with the spells.



So the Epic Spell (500%) raises the limit to 500% not including Xpbs. So you have 100% base +200% Pbi. And then you add everything else on top of it So best exp would be

Base + Pbi (200) + Elizabeth Enchant (200) However if you're past that level you can stack some xp potions and/or buffs.

Some examples are Exp elixirs (30) cake (30) Scrolls (50) Blessed Potions (20)* Water Melon (20)*

* these 2 cannot be used together

Im sure there are more buffs but on average for me I get

Base (100) + pbi (200) + elixir (30) + cake (30) + scroll (50) + Blessed Potions (20) = 430 In this case I need the epic since im above the 400%

I believe DT is seperate from all of this and might be multiplicative. Not 100% sure on DT

Hope this helps!

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Tuesday, 13. June 2017, 19:43

I believe DT is seperate from all of this

I believe you're right as well. With DT on and using PBI it should be 1.5 base x 3 = 4.5 as opposed to 1 base x 3.5 = 3.5. In other words, DT goes towards base, not bonus.

Also, stacking items has been different ever since we moved to Gamigo. BI and elixir should be 230%, but is in fact 260%, or reduced to 250% without spell. Makes it a whole lot easier. I'm not complaining.
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Tuesday, 13. June 2017, 19:51

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I believe DT is seperate from all of this

I believe you're right as well. With DT on and using PBI it should be 1.5 base x 3 = 4.5 as opposed to 1 base x 3.5 = 3.5. In other words, DT goes towards base, not bonus.
Also, stacking items has been different ever since we moved to Gamigo. BI and elixir should be 230%, but is in fact 260%, or reduced to 250% without spell. Makes it a whole lot easier. I'm not complaining.



I was not aware of this. So Elixirs are 60% not 30% now?
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Tuesday, 13. June 2017, 21:01

That's not what I meant. It basically resulted in this : (100 + 30) x2. What I said earlier was however based on a test I did right after we came to Gamigo, so I did a test again right now :

- Base experience for the mob : 1,452,371
- Adding Blessed Iris : 2,904,742 (200% of base)
- Adding Experience Scroll : 3,630,927 (~250% of base)
- Adding only 300% spell : 4,357,112 (~300% or base)

With BI and experience scroll you would think you'd get 250% (100 base + 100 from BI + 50 from the scroll), which I did at first, but only due to that being the normal stack cap. Adding the spell, and only the spell, it then goes up to 300%.

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Tuesday, 13. June 2017, 21:38

That's not what I meant. It basically resulted in this : (100 + 30) x2. What I said earlier was however based on a test I did right after we came to Gamigo, so I did a test again right now :
- Base experience for the mob : 1,452,371
- Adding Blessed Iris : 2,904,742 (200% of base)
- Adding Experience Scroll : 3,630,927 (~250% of base)
- Adding only 300% spell : 4,357,112 (~300% or base)
With BI and experience scroll you would think you'd get 250% (100 base + 100 from BI + 50 from the scroll), which I did at first, but only due to that being the normal stack cap. Adding the spell, and only the spell, it then goes up to 300%.



Ahh ok I see what you mean, thats an interesting find. I'll have to test that and see if it adds up right.
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Tuesday, 13. June 2017, 22:02

Everything they wrote is correct but no one explained how to get to 500% xD which is what you asked...

Now I'm thinkin of the simplest way to explain to you how spell works.

I'll steal some Grautdata...

- Base experience for the mob : 1,452,371 (that is marked as 100% of exp that you recieve from a monster think of it as the base, to this base you add all the other multipliers)

Killing in a dungeon during dungeon time, your base goes from 100% to 150%, so now, the base for multiplier is 150%, it's not 100% anymore.

Using a PBI which adds 200%, you recieve 350% of exp.
(PBI is an premium item, it breaks the 250% cap limit, reason why I say it's a premium item is because if you try to stack smaller experience boost potions like blessed iris(adds 100% for 3 hrs), snowman (adds 100% for 30 min), exp scroll (50% for 10 min), cake (adds 30%)

base 100% + bi 100% + snowman 100% + exp scroll 50% + cake 30%= 380% of exp, thing is, when you add all of these small exp boosts, there is a cap at 250%, think of it as a cup of water that is 250 ML, you can use all the items to reach 380%, but you will only get 250% + expb, only if you use mega exp spell (400%), you will gain the 380%

purpose of 300% exp spell is to enable so you break this 250% cap and get 300%, or if u use 400%, or 500%, you get a bigger cup

but this cup you must fill in with water, the water you must add are the items like snowman, exp scroll, cake, purple elixir, blessed bottle...


there are 2 multipliers in the game that go on the 100% or 150% of base
1.(pbi, bi, exp scroll, snowman, purple elixir, cake, blessed bottle) by using them you need to break the 250% base cap and use epic exp spell which is a 500% cap,

2. expbs


base which you add these 2 multipliers depends, if you kill outside of dungeons it is 100%, if you kill inside a dungeon during during dungeon time, base is 150% + 500% + x4 expb



so pbi is the only one tht breaks tht magic barrier cap of 250%, if u mix other items u will never get exp past 250% without using 300% spell or 400% or 500%

to reach 500% u got ur base of 100%, pbi adds 200%, snowman adds 100%, exp scroll adds 50%, purple elixir adds 30%, or according to Graut, more, I never tested it, and if u add blessed bottle which adds 20% for 20 min (these cost 1m ea)
100% + 200% + 100% + 50% + 30% + 20%= 500%

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Tuesday, 13. June 2017, 22:30

base 100% + bi 100% + snowman 100% + exp scroll 50% + cake 30%= 380% of exp

Wrong. Bonuses don't sum up, but are multiplied according to their total item % value when used alone (BI adds 100%, so it's total is 200%). Base 100% (1) x bi 200% (x2) x snowman 200% (x2) x exp scroll 150% (x1.5) x cake 130% (x1.3) = 780%, which is way above max limit. CP + PBI is 150% (1.5) x 300% (x3) = 450% (x4.5)

Edit:
Here are some examples how you can mix boosters with various spells.

300 exp spell:
Double exp event (or BI) x exp scroll = 100%(base) x 2 x 1.5 = 300%
Event (or BI) x exp potion x Cleric's Holy Bless (lvl 7) = 100% x 2 x 1.3 x 1.2 = 312% (cut down to 300%)

400 exp spell:
Double exp event x BI = 100% x 2 x 2 = 400%
PBI x exp potion = 100% x 3 x 1.3 = 390%
PBI x exp potion x Cleric's Holy Bless (lvl 7) = 100% x 3 x 1.3 x 1.2 = 468% (cut down to 400%)
PBI x exp scroll = 100% x 3 x 1.5 = 450% (cut down to 400%)

500 exp spell:
Double exp event x PBI = 100% x 2 x 3 = 600% (cut down to 500%)
BI x exp scroll x exp potion = 100% x 3 x 1.5 x 1.3 = 585% (cut down to 500%)

BTW - max quest's exp limit is fixed to 300% - you won't get more no matter what spells and boosters you use.

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Wednesday, 14. June 2017, 01:02





base 100% + bi 100% + snowman 100% + exp scroll 50% + cake 30%= 380% of exp

Wrong. Bonuses don't sum up, but are multiplied according to their total item % value when used alone (BI adds 100%, so it's total is 200%). Base 100% (1) x bi 200% (x2) x snowman 200% (x2) x exp scroll 150% (x1.5) x cake 130% (x1.3) = 780%, which is way above max limit. CP + PBI is 150% (1.5) x 300% (x3) = 450% (x4.5)


Ok, o.o can you explain to me, why does it say 100% on bi and 200% on pbi, and not 200% on bi, and not 300% on pbi...

It doesn't say, that, your base is 100% and bi is actually x2 of the real exp, which means you get 2 000 000 exp instead of 1 000 000 exp o.o

and that ur base is 100% and pbi is actually x3 of the real exp, which means you get 3 000 000 exp instead of 1 000 000 exp o.o

You have to realise this by yourself... I explained it bad, my bad, I do know it works this way, I just didn't know how to explain it, :| He still has to get all tht stuff for 500%, so who cares bout math :D
It's why people are confused...
You're right... :|

*throws tantrums* on explanations of exp items in the description cause... explain it better :pinch:
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Wednesday, 14. June 2017, 09:34

Ty all for your answer..I think i got it!!!!

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Wednesday, 14. June 2017, 12:33

There there bran - (gives Bran a lollipop to calm tantrum)...
I think problem is that descriptions of items give the % to be added, so pbi says +200%, bringing you up to 300%
However... bonuses are actually multiplied, ie pbi and xpb give 1200% (3 x 4) not 700%...
Exit math teacher mode...
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