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Tuesday, 28. February 2017, 20:05

[Discussion] Costume Seals - To Reform or not to Reform?

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If you get a selection of different seals on your costumes and not only HP/MP boosts, would you want to use the reforming-potion on your costume as well?
Feel free to discuss the pros and cons of this idea. Even though we would have to do lots of different base-costumes with different seals, if you like this feature, we may do it...

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Since I couldn't give feedback in the actual thread, I guess I'll give it here. Not sure if I posted this in the correct section but ah well. That's why we have Vilya's Serva... Erhm, Game Masters! Anyway, let's move on to the topic. :whistling:

Personally, I think it'd depend on what kind of seals we're talking about here. The only seals I can see myself reforming would be HP, MP, HR and Eva, and even then it is only if it was possible to get it up to a significant amount. I'm not talking reforming an HP seal from 500 to 620, I'm talking getting the HP increase up over 5k.

The only items I see constantly reformed are those that have a seal that can potentially make a significant difference to the user, such as the 170 Eva and HR gears or the Elemental Boss Accesories. Advanced Grade Reformers are expensive items (2,299 IC for 5x, 250m ea on the market) and they are completely, so for someone to bother reforming an item that will run out after x days (30 by default, which can potentially be extended) the seals would need to be really good.
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Wednesday, 1. March 2017, 17:30

i like Croasantito input in this subject <333333 but i vote no for reforming costume seals ,so long time we ask for balance ,so in my opinion this wont lead to any of that >.<
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Wednesday, 1. March 2017, 18:04

@MeanieLuda - Personally, my problem would be with the possible "significant seals" that would be included/invented, not the reforming itself. While I wouldn't bother reforming it myself unless it was a really useful seal to max out, it would be optional regardless if I personally found it useful or not, so I see no problem if they included the reforming part itself, but rather the seal.

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Wednesday, 1. March 2017, 20:03

pls im innocent and shy not meanie >.< regardless of the seal ,not everyone go for costumes in the game ( i do,you know that )
but till system like that is not introduced in full details to us ,with option we to consider and vote about ,i cant say yes
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Wednesday, 1. March 2017, 20:18

@NotMeanieLuda - The same can be said for the C1 Costumes that are currently in the game, which potentially offers up to 3 additional upgrades on the melded piece of equipment. Not everyone go for costumes, especially not the C1 ones, yet those that do receive an "unfair" advantage and in my book, this falls into the same category.

It goes back to the whole point of buying IC, which at the end of the day is to gain something which would either be impossible or at least difficult to obtain without buying IC. If there was nothing to gain by buying IC, then no1 would bother buying it in the first place. Yes, it can be regarded as an unfair advantage from a certain point of view, but if you look at it objectively, these people spent their actual real life money on this crap. I think it's fair that they gain an advantage from wasting their life savings on a bunch of pixels and I have no problem with it.

What I do worry about is that the seals would be something off-the-charts useful that would completely screw over anyone who didn't have it, because that would probably cause all F2P players to rage quit. I'm fine with the reforming of costume seals because it would be optional and in and of itself it wouldn't harm those who didn't waste 100b trying to get an acceptable increase in said seals. I'd be fine with the costume giving its' user a few extra k HP or 10-20% Run Speed or Resistance against Stun/Stone/Silence, because while that is indeed useful, it's not something which can't be accomplished by other means.

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Wednesday, 1. March 2017, 20:31

c1 costumes will be removed as i read ,no matter if someone try to stock on them ,it wont last forever ,anyway if you hold on that ,we can say the same for the prs +1 +2 +3 and up ,at least melding books dont go higher then that >.<
i wanna see first optional system introduced to us no matter if is from Gamigo or some player ,then and more players will bother to vote and discuss this 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :love:
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Wednesday, 1. March 2017, 23:53

A bit off topic but from the same thread...

With the removal of the C1 costumes, we will also remove the bonus Book of Melding from the item shop. We will not disable the feature, so you still can use what you have on stock. You just cannot get any new ones anymore.

What happens once all the bonus books and big books of melding have been used up in the game.. With regard to phoenix helms at least.. They will be pretty useless if they can't be melded.

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Thursday, 2. March 2017, 00:26

A bit off topic but from the same thread...

With the removal of the C1 costumes, we will also remove the bonus Book of Melding from the item shop. We will not disable the feature, so you still can use what you have on stock. You just cannot get any new ones anymore.

What happens once all the bonus books and big books of melding have been used up in the game.. With regard to phoenix helms at least.. They will be pretty useless if they can't be melded.
My guess/suggestion for that would be for them to simply change its' properties so it becomes a Costume Piece, rather than an Armor Piece. Either Gamigo automatically change it so the Phoenix Helm becomes a Costume Piece by default, or you would have to change it manually using the new Costume Trans-whatever-it-is-called System. I mean, it was mainly just there for looks to begin with, so while it is a legitimate question, it has a pretty simple answer. And while I would prefer for Gamigo to change it into a unlimited time Costume Piece, I'm not sure if they'd bother with that when there already exists a simple solution to the problem in the game, which on top of that would involve people spending IC to buy Costume Extenders just because they didn't want to lose a Unique Item. :S
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Thursday, 2. March 2017, 06:13

Makes perfect sense. Would be nice though to have it kept as an unlimited piece that doesn't wear off because of its uniqueness in design. Thanks

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Thursday, 2. March 2017, 06:58

they could make the Phoenix helm a stand alone helm possibly like the dragon sword that would level with you and have some useful seals for grinding like 40 CD, hr, mp red and eva seals or whatever most of the people would find useful. Most people once they get to 170s they are gonna be ditching it anyways for a hr or eva helm.

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Thursday, 2. March 2017, 15:26

A bit off topic but from the same thread...

With the removal of the C1 costumes, we will also remove the bonus Book of Melding from the item shop. We will not disable the feature, so you still can use what you have on stock. You just cannot get any new ones anymore.

What happens once all the bonus books and big books of melding have been used up in the game.. With regard to phoenix helms at least.. They will be pretty useless if they can't be melded.
My guess/suggestion for that would be for them to simply change its' properties so it becomes a Costume Piece, rather than an Armor Piece. Either Gamigo automatically change it so the Phoenix Helm becomes a Costume Piece by default, or you would have to change it manually using the new Costume Trans-whatever-it-is-called System....


The Phoenix cover helm is VERY useful for those who don't have the chance to make a +15 helm and was part of the phoenix system since the begining. And instead of spending time and effort trying to change something that worked perfect into something less useful, why not just leave the bbm in im or simply put them in armor traders same as bb of unmelding are now and let ppl get them from there for their phoenix toons? ?(
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Thursday, 2. March 2017, 16:27

I like Pandia's suggestion. That would definitely work

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Thursday, 20. April 2017, 23:04

OOPS!

AP or not AP? (Now IC or not IC?) That is the question...
It is hard to fight armed with that when your opponent is armed like this:

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "divataroza" (20. April 2017, 23:10)

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