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Sayannn

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Date d'inscription: 20/10/2015

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23 March 2017 15:42

lol upgrade system lol

The upgrade system is outrageous: MS too expensive almost never give +1 and pieces involve to no trade, runes of protection 80% fail and max +25, 150% upgrade events ridiculous ....

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PRIMEX

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23 March 2017 17:07

I'm going to have to side with you on this one. There is seemingly no upgrade system in place until you get an upgrade event and with that it becomes barely tolerable. I have to wait 3 weeks to 2 months (at gamigo's whim) before I can make any move without blowing 10 bil. Granted I still blow a ton of gold during an upgrade event too. Only 2 days ago 25 Gold rops failed and not 1 (+1), not 1. I don't know how much longer I can play this game of odds. Same thing with master stones, you will spend 20 billion gold just to end up where you started or worse and If gold was easy to come by I'd say shoot go again, but it really isn't easy to come by.

MASTERS SHOULD NEVER GIVE A (-1)!! Clearly by its description its suppose to be "A chance at an upgrade" it should be either +1 or no change at all.

Its not that they are even too expensive. But when you are going to spend 150 billion on an item only to end up where you've start, there is not only an inherent problem, it is deception of the highest level.

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23 March 2017 19:17

From my own experience as old player - no matter what ppl say about our previous publisher - thanks to AE you could UPGRADE you gears - it wasn't cheap but was possible. All weapons above +20 r made during these times. Speaking as non ic buyer - back then prices of Ms were high- but u knew what u work/pay for.
Now u pay for something and pray for luck... few days ago a friend of mine was explaining me how is cheaper to buy Ic during their promo and get +1 , than wasting ur ic on ms and upgrading. Maybe this system is ok for ppl who can afford to buy tons of ic to get +30 wep, but I believe for most ppl is stupid. Better 5 times higher price on MS without -1 option, than cheap ms which almost none wants to buy.


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23 March 2017 23:58

Yeah I agree with OP, the system is a joke. Master stones are really expensive in-game but they are also really expensive in IC for what they do. You're gonna need hundreds of thousands in IC to get a single piece to +30 if you're lucky. The success rate is really bad but what makes it ridiculous is the chance for a -1, happens way too often.
I'd be fine with increasing the odds for a failure but removing the possibility for a -1. Then we have runes of protection, from my experience these have a really high fail rate and getting two +'s in a row is pretty much like winning the lottery. Upgrade events does not seem to affect this in any way either. It's a gamble and the odds are very much against you. :thumbdown:

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24 March 2017 2:38

SUGGESTION:
Rename the "Master Stone" to "Junior Apprentice Stone". With that success rate it is a shame to be called "Master" :)

AP or not AP? (Now IC or not IC?) That is the question...
It is hard to fight armed with that when your opponent is armed like this:
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24 March 2017 5:13

I could not agree more with just about everything that has been said.

The general upgrade rate is abysmal.

Master Stones should be called Stones of Questionable Luck.

That about sums it up.

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24 March 2017 6:11

we all know it ...this is a expensive game :)

just made my dura wand +30 on H server , cost me 47 ms in total from +13 to 30.love the wep deosent worth it try devils after +13 will get u spend even more.i tryed upgrade 97 wep when i was close to that lvl ...18k ic and still couldnt more that +13

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24 March 2017 16:39

And that is their gamble Light, for the very few who can afford to spend so much money on IC to spend $400-500 to make a decent wep and then leave the other %90 out in the cold. The 10 people I know on the server to own +30 gears are the few very wealthy players whose fortunes were made long before Gamigo. We are not asking for free giveaways, we want something logical in place that doesn't have us making two steps forward and then 10 steps back. That is the definition of counterproductive.

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24 March 2017 18:46

Citation

i tryed upgrade 97 wep when i was close to that lvl ...18k ic and still couldnt more that +13
That's broken. Nowhere other than this game would it be acceptable to spend $60 and get nothing in return, except in a casino.
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Sayannn

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29 March 2017 12:03

true ... at least 2 times a month to organize events 250/300% upgrade valid for all inclusive runes and ms would be interesting ....

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4 April 2017 0:36

On most games people complain about pay2win, on LC people complain about not winning when they pay. Amazing. :thumbdown:

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4 April 2017 2:35

On most games people complain about pay2win, on LC people complain about not winning when they pay. Amazing. :thumbdown:

I think your statement should be amended with:
"... about not winning EVEN when they pay"
Try upgrading without deep IC pocket. For the last 6-7 months I tried to get a 172 helm past +13 with runes only. RoPs are too pricey :(
IDK how many helms broke between +10 and +12. I tried with no event, with 150% and with few 200% events and not even one single item went past +12, so I gave up and put the Lucky rune and settled for +13 that way.
AP or not AP? (Now IC or not IC?) That is the question...
It is hard to fight armed with that when your opponent is armed like this:
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9 June 2017 1:36

upgrade? not really

i liked the very old system. buy a prime stone and it will upgrade your item to +16 no fails or use ms and not fail or be character bound. runes have mostly had variable results except for lucky ones. it used to be nice to get 100 pack of chaosballs and then you would have a few stones to defend or attack and some to use for fail free upgrades guess we want things that dont make enough money or are damaging to the economy.
the game is one of my favorites having said what i intended to be a complaint. :rolleyes:

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9 June 2017 3:35

i liked the very old system. buy a prime stone and it will upgrade your item to +16 no fails or use ms and not fail or be character bound....... :rolleyes:


Why would someone need a special item to have +15 +16 non bound and safely upgraded when it can be done with ingame droppable items ?
I suggest to read patch notes here Patch Notes | April 26, 2017 and here Patch Notes | May 3, 2017 for the latest changes in upgrading system.
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9 June 2017 4:35

It is ridiculously easy to make a +15 item now spending no IC at all and really cheap too on purple items with the new system. The problem area is that 15-20 range which really....is bad...your almost forced to use ms in that range and hope you can get an unbind stone. Once you get to 20 it gets better again. It's those stupid rates at 15-20 that are awful and it would be nice to give the rates a little...maybe a little more than a little nudge.

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10 June 2017 2:49

isn't upgrading to +17 with MS still 100% success?
I have not try using MS since they nerfed them

AP or not AP? (Now IC or not IC?) That is the question...
It is hard to fight armed with that when your opponent is armed like this:
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20 September 2017 12:03

You have a 100% success rate upgrading anything above 146 for like 200m.

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13 October 2017 20:57

You have a 100% success rate upgrading anything above 146 for like 200m.
Up to +15, the discussion is about what happens after +15
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13 October 2017 22:25

Yeah better chances would be nice. I recently accidentally busted my +23 dura (lol) and now I've got to make a new one, I'm losing hope though simply because of how expensive and risky upgrading has become.

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