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Tuesday, 28. April 2020, 06:40

Boss Hunt Poll

Should cut the spawn time down or 1 more spot point on bosses?

A total of 43 Votes have been submitted.

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Yes (22)

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No (11)

Hello there!!


I'm wondering if is there any chance to cut down from Boss spawning time from Dratan - Merac - Egeha - Streyana - Mondshine and finaly Tarian.
There is a lot of new members and a lot more old ones that they come back with big toons and they hunting them.
That makes the one in need not even can do them own tittle quest cas they can't catch them up. :evil:
I hope others players have an opinion about this and feel to tick the right answare. :thumbsup:

Really appreciate your help and thanks in advance! :thumbup:

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Tuesday, 28. April 2020, 17:23

Faster re-spawn times just means those frequently hunting will get more bosses faster than before. And if another spot, more bosses.

If random locations, will kill leveling on bosses. Who wants to waste PBI/pots running all around big maps hope to find a boss, or killing 100's of plants/trees/etc to hopefully spawn one boss. Sounds like great fun...

If you can't get bosses now, work with your guild, guild GM, or partner with others at least for XP until you can do fast BH. And run with a group if needed, PK flag on and make it exciting.

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Tuesday, 28. April 2020, 18:12

Hello there!!


I'm wondering if is there any chance to cut down from Boss spawning time from Dratan - Merac - Egeha - Streyana - Mondshine and finaly Tarian.
There is a lot of new members and a lot more old ones that they come back with big toons and they hunting them.
That makes the one in need not even can do them own tittle quest cas they can't catch them up. :evil:
I hope others players have an opinion about this and feel to tick the right answare. :thumbsup:

Really appreciate your help and thanks in advance! :thumbup:
does any1 no whats the respawn time ? it is 4h or 6 h ? should be 2-3h
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Tuesday, 28. April 2020, 18:21

Igneel could you please oben up another thread? So that people wont see the other answers again?

Thank you i'd appreciate it!

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Tuesday, 28. April 2020, 18:48

Nostradamus. The reason of second topic is the Poll option.
Why is some players afraid to have less spawn or 1 more spot?
Decreasing the price that you pump it up?
Do you know because of that spammers show up?
Someone that is comes with disagree on this topic could be the spammer gold farmer.
Ofcourse from the Boss Hunt comes the most gold for them.
Is nothing bad if they change it. Is gonna be better for new players and cheaper stuff.
That's mean players wont buy anymore from the farmer gold and on the same time spammer so he will leave.
Everyone will have the opportunity to farm them self them own HS5.
I don't understand why some people are so obsessed of this change?
You don't wanna give the opportunity to new player to catch them up?
I'd like to say again. I don't think here the boss is the problem.
And actually you are afraid of price decreasing.

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Tuesday, 28. April 2020, 19:02

I voted no, since faster spawn, more locations, just means those that are hunting them now, will have even more to hunt. They will still take all the bosses very fast, and newer toons will still be without. Big toons get richer, newer toons no direct benefit.

Do you really believe BH toons are the one's selling to gold spammer sites? Gamigo tracks all large gold transfers, and quick to ban toons that get caught. Seems big risk to create a 170+ toon just to get it banned. And have you ever looked at those spammer web sites? Where the heck they get TRILLIONS of gold for sale? There must be other game bugs/hacks that we don't know about.

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Tuesday, 28. April 2020, 19:07

If random locations, will kill leveling on bosses. Who wants to waste PBI/pots running all around big maps hope to find a boss, or killing 100's of plants/trees/etc to hopefully spawn one boss. Sounds like great fun...


Why would you use a PBI and in general use this as a leveling source when others kill bosses before you? Its a waste of potions and basically invalidates your argument.
they are world bosses, it means getting them should be lets call it"a nice to have" and not something guaranteed.
Having the spawn locations randomized across the map will show who is dedicated to an actual hunt for benefits rather than just hopping channels and using a memorizing scroll.

Why is some players afraid to have less spawn or 1 more spot?


Because if players right now are clearing 2 spots per boss without issues they will be able to clear out 3 spots, so nothing changes and you have the exact same situation as you have now.
The rest you mentioned makes no sense at all xD
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Tuesday, 28. April 2020, 19:08

The direct benefit of the new players for the first time is price decreasing!
And trust me. Till they will finish the hole servers you will catch 1-2 boss on the other servers on the run.
I been 4 hours on the run and I couldn't catch more then 1 boss cuz I meet to many people on the run.
So the benefit for player will be huge. Trust me.
For now the only benefit is for the hunter and the price they selling for wich you all are afraid of.

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Tuesday, 28. April 2020, 19:14

The direct benefit of the new players for the first time is price decreasing!
For now the only benefit is for the hunter and the price they selling for wich you all are afraid of.

Dont know about your server, but on Horizon CSS used to sell for around 300m, LSS around 50m. Through boss hunting, so many more now available, and has driven the price down to CSS around 50m, LSS around 20m. I am not afraid of the prices coming down, I sell for the cheaper prices to help keep lower, and give away to guild mates or other friends. Anyway, I haven't seen LC make any player recommended changes in long time, so really all a moot point...
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Tuesday, 28. April 2020, 19:19

Allright guys. You two give it a brake. There is 7 more people then other answare they will like 1 more sport or less spawn.

I get your point. Leave the others opinion to be shared too. Thank you! USA servers here.

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Tuesday, 28. April 2020, 19:21

Trust you. Lets make people get more stuff, and more stuff so they wont need to buy stuff from the ingame shop anymore.

More bosses => more items => price drops => market is overflooded => value decreases
More bosses => more XP => less lvling items needed => less income for gamigo

With your sense of having more of them, you should argue too that ramslo should have a sapwntime of 5 minutes, so everyone gets their HR/EVA weapon cheaper. Because its better for lower/newer players.

Dude its Endgamebosses. Its what people do when the have hit the cap. So of course they should have benefits. If there are lower/newer player they can always ask veterans to help them out or to take them on a boosround and maybe even share loot. There are always nice people that help you out if you ask nicely.

But just going for having more and more and wanting more and more i highly dislike it.

And as una stated before the only real way to change the "world boss feature" should be randomized spawns that you actually have to hunt them.

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Tuesday, 28. April 2020, 19:26

Yes. But also people will have to buy more GOLD Rune Of Protection or Jewel Protection Scroll.
I have seen lot's of people haveing 6-7 toons. For gamingo shop wont be a problem.
The benefits for them will increase too. More players will join Last Chaos and they will have to buy stuff from it to.
And by the way. I'van if you got players that they spending a lot of time for the others is still money spent.
Time means money. If you don't have free players inside the game, definetly you wont have premium players that they buying a lot of stuff from shop. Thank you.

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Wednesday, 29. April 2020, 18:52

faster spawn, more locations, just means those that are hunting them now, will have even more to hunt. They will still take all the bosses very fast


Because if players right now are clearing 2 spots per boss without issues they will be able to clear out 3 spots, so nothing changes and you have the exact same situation as you have now.


Cannot be said more clearly.

As already mentioned in your previous post, Initus has 2 players who bh 24/7, 7/7, 365/365 and few more that do few bh runs. Reducing the spawn time or have 1 more location per map will change ABSOLUTELY nothing.

The only way imo for everyone to have a chance to kill them is by what una said, randomized spawning spots.
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Thursday, 30. April 2020, 00:13

decrease the spawn time = more lag more exploits . lately ive noticed worlds increasing the spawn time of bosses - lag and exploit related .( world L2 ) and others .
if anything is going to spawn in random locations it is for sure going to be our pandoras . the coolest random spawning mobs in any world ever and far more important than any of the bosses because of the drops and gameplay .

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Thursday, 30. April 2020, 04:16

@ The Author of the post

Why did u modified the poll? There were votes of 'Leave as is' option and now they don't appear at all.
You vanished those votes leaving just the ones that fit your desire and you had no right to do it. :thumbdown:

If you don't like the negative votes, then just don't make a poll at all.

Can a GM pls restore the original poll and votes as they were before modification?
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Sunday, 3. May 2020, 04:53

It is a good thing I didn't vote before it changed because now i can vote no. Changing the respawn time will solve nothing as the others have said. The ONLY thing that will change this problem is the spawn point being random. If they are not completely random then it will never work. As Pandia and others have point out the people that boss hunt 24/7 will just get more bosses and you will have nothing still. If the spawn point is random that means everybody has a fair shot at getting the boss. There is no other solution that will work.

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Sunday, 3. May 2020, 15:01

I can totally understand the poll unlike some *beautiful souls* who dont want others to achieve anything because they payed (much) real cash for their toons so they think every one else has to do it too.
The problem is that the bosses are the only monsters that drop something usefull in the whole game so ofc every wants to hunt them. Increasing the spot number would ofc help, unlike una stated, because it adds one more variable to the equation and unless it wasn't just maintenance the bosses wont spawn all at once so the ppl who perma farm will have to check for the places more. And thats where the 1 more spot gets usefull because can u look for bosses more then 24/7? I don't think so.
It's kinda the same for decreased spawn time.
If u don't want that changes then think about adding usefull drops to other bosses/monsters bescause the gap is just too big.

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Sunday, 3. May 2020, 16:09

The problem is that the bosses are the only monsters that drop something usefull in the whole game so ofc every wants to hunt them. Increasing the spot number would ofc help, unlike una stated, because it adds one more variable to the equation and unless it wasn't just maintenance the bosses wont spawn all at once so the ppl who perma farm will have to check for the places more. And thats where the 1 more spot gets usefull because can u look for bosses more then 24/7? I don't think so.


It takes 10 seconds to go to a spot and check it. So with 2 spots , its 20 seconds +/- 15-30 seconds for the kill. I can guarantee you adding 10 extra seconds to that for someone that hunts the bosses will not make any difference. And this has nothing to do with making money, it has to do with making the boss hunt, an actual boss hunt and not something you can just save a spot and teleport to once the spawn timer is up again. It was the same situation with Ramslo back in the day, we basically monopolized it and had a group killing every 6 hours on the dot so no one else could get it. That is the same situation with the elemental bosses now. If the spawn points are randomized, you wont be able to save and teleport, you will have to search for them and then its who finds it, gets the loot, and then even if you know the boss respawn is say 4 hours, it will not do you any good since the next spawn will again be random and you have to run the entire map to find it again aka hunt. Then it will take real dedication to it and you will see who really cares about them and the loot.

Adding a fixed extra spot, even with reduced respawn will not change the current situation at all. And most players would rather get a proper solution rather than a band aid on a problem that will not solve anything and just give those that hunt them now more drops and more income.

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Sunday, 3. May 2020, 18:38

@ The Author of the post

Why did u modified the poll? There were votes of 'Leave as is' option and now they don't appear at all.
You vanished those votes leaving just the ones that fit your desire and you had no right to do it. :thumbdown:

If you don't like the negative votes, then just don't make a poll at all.

Can a GM pls restore the original poll and votes as they were before modification?
The poll was modified as per the poll rules in the forum. It specifically states "Yes or no ONLY".

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Monday, 4. May 2020, 02:43

Boss Hunt Poll

actually there is a very simple way of resolving this..... set all bosses to Private Dungeon status, with one spawn per day.... that way anyone who needs to kill a boss for a quest can find it.... Of course this will never happen because those with vested interests would complain to high heaven!!!

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