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Dienstag, 30. August 2016, 20:43


PvP is balanced, just not all classes recieved enough power to be in balance People need to understand not all classes are supose to be overpowered, People need to realise there are dmg dealers(exranger, ranger, assassin, ex assassin cause of their invis and death motion I give them this advantage) , tanks(temple knight, royal knight, warmaster), healers(cleric, exsin with contract), support(archmage, NS, specialist, archer, ex sin with AoE stone skill) in all the games that revolve in this sort of gameplay in the world, I'd say highlander and elementalist are totally out of the PvP war, I agree that needs to be improved, spirits of elementalist strenghtened so they don't die so easy, and highlander, some sort of elemental debuff skill or a stun skill like warmaster, or some sort of super axe skill tht cops people :D why not make the game interesting even more :D Just to make people play the class, Highlanders are actually very fun but useless because of no trump card in their sleeves like all the other classes :D

You're really over glorifying a basic PvP system. LC does not have these "roles" presently. It has dmg dealers (anyone with a +28 or so dura wep), tanks (anyone with 100k+ HP, some buffs, and lots of cures), healers (med med med med), and support (Kerons and ele scrolls). The only difference among these is basically attack speed and if the character has an element defense debuff or not -- and invis doesn't hurt either. PvP simply is not balanced and giving every class the same benefits of the current OP ones is not a fix. Do we really need a third cop skill?


Nope 8| Elemental system brought balance in PVE, you can legitimately lvl with a cleric, TK, elementalist, witch and archwitch and idk which other class from lvl 1 to lvl 185, this was an awesome improvement :thumbup:
People don't know the pain of lvling these classes in the same pace as all other classes when there was no elemental system.
Yeah the elemental system brought some classes up to speed in being able to do more than 200 damage to mobs but take away all the buffs hit certain mobs and you may end up back where you started (that's a cleric with 173+28 wand.) But hey, that's a healer role toon attacking a mob with stage 3 elemental defense pls balance give cleric debuffs that aren't buffs am support toon too!

Can I level as a Cleric in Ramslo Raid? Yes. Do I need buffs and low attack speed to kill bosses in a reasonable amount of time? Yes. Am I supposed to be able to level a healer role toon as fast as other classes??? Also, I'm not calling for the total removal of the system. "Whether that entails removing the elemental system or rebalancing it makes no difference as long as it's fair." The rebalancing would be much more desirable to some, I just want a more fair system both PvE and PvP wise. And don't dive too deep into my words on PvE fixes. PvE is easy, simple as that. BUT some mobs have lvl 3 element defense and some classes have debuffs to lower that to one and some don't. That's the extent of my words, not giving a handful of classes skills like that and leaving the rest in the dark.


Sieges and 1-2 hit theme, this has been actual since velocity came in the game :D
Oh those good old times, think about it like this, tk and cleric can reach 200k hp without problem, and if they got a +30 set, and if they're in the same party, you try to kill them without any sort of dmg power boost :D imagine the malachites on their pants, and you having 1-2 attack speed and that pops up every once a while, with +30 set which gives 2.5% pvp absorb per piece, not to mention the aragonite absorb, and dmg link from tk and barrier from cleric, not to mention all the eva buffs, 80% stone/stun res, and cleric healin the tk and himself and they each have medicine and owl pill.
I think I've given enough reasons for ign still existing on siege channel :D
NS with cop, archwiz with cop, scrolls can be removed cause of 5th owl pill which removes sleep, oooh... the pain of witches sleepin in the past and no cure :D the nostalgia is hitting me again ;(

PvP is generally improved, just needs some dmg boost in certain skills and elementalist and HL improved, PVE is easy peezy lemon squeezy now for all classes ^^
Just need to find a good guild and begin your LC adventure like Bilbo :D
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The inability to kill players with that sort of gear and setup is no excuse for being able to 1-2 hit them. Ignition is not the long term answer and is a slap in the face to the person on the receiving end for wasting their time and effort. Also unless a change was made recently, a TK wouldn't be using meds and owls if they were on crystal. I don't know what you're trying to say about cop? Big picture is "sieges range from being unkillable to being 1-2 hit with lvl 5 ign, perm copped, scrolled, etc." There is no middle ground and that's what I'm asking for.
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Dienstag, 30. August 2016, 22:07


Don't we all love being a tank getting one hit (thank you ignition).

Well :D I love this part, when a bunch of people stand at crystal like a statue aka stationary target waiting for the person with the gun to just take them down its understandable you'll get 1 hit, but its actually not 1 hit, cause of the little delay it takes 2-3 hits with ign :D
People who stand at crystal and not move its like when a guy comes in a circus and comes to that stand with ducks u shoot for reward :D

And, you mocking me for believing into many people coming back, I don't expect 120918298 people to log in right away after 1 email of asking them to come back. It takes time to rebuild a brand to its former glory. Barunson has the licence on Last Chaos, their game info has been stolen, it is their duty to sue the people who own private servers with their stolen game data, it's not a hard thing to do, sue people for stealin stuff. This is an old game, true story, but many people, I believe, and I know in my case(I came back when I saw stuff improving), would come back playing if they knew the conditions, LC lacks people to play. Pservs are a short station for the LC players tht played the LC where Barunson gave patches at the start of the game, when it was more of a party game than a solo game. The people who sticked around even with Barunsons poor desire to improve the game from time to time are the victims of their laziness, if only they read a thing called feedback and freakin shut down pservs with law suits, if TPB was taken down easy several dozen times and their servers with the data taken from them, how hard is it to do to a freakin 10 year old game... :pinch:
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Dienstag, 30. August 2016, 22:23


Don't we all love being a tank getting one hit (thank you ignition).

Well :D I love this part, when a bunch of people stand at crystal like a statue aka stationary target waiting for the person with the gun to just take them down its understandable you'll get 1 hit, but its actually not 1 hit, cause of the little delay it takes 2-3 hits with ign :D
People who stand at crystal and not move its like when a guy comes in a circus and comes to that stand with ducks u shoot for reward :D

And, you mocking me for believing into many people coming back, I don't expect 120918298 people to log in right away after 1 email of asking them to come back. It takes time to rebuild a brand to its former glory. Barunson has the licence on Last Chaos, their game info has been stolen, it is their duty to sue the people who own private servers with their stolen game data, it's not a hard thing to do, sue people for stealin stuff. This is an old game, true story, but many people, I believe, and I know in my case(I came back when I saw stuff improving), would come back playing if they knew the conditions, LC lacks people to play. Pservs are a short station for the LC players tht played the LC where Barunson gave patches at the start of the game, when it was more of a party game than a solo game. The people who sticked around even with Barunsons poor desire to improve the game from time to time are the victims of their laziness, if only they read a thing called feedback and freakin shut down pservs with law suits, if TPB was taken down easy several dozen times and their servers with the data taken from them, how hard is it to do to a freakin 10 year old game... :pinch:
Bran :love: I'm not even a tank and still you repeatedly fail in 1-2-3-4-5 hitting me with igni 5. Anyway. I like your idea that when lawsuits against gamestealers will be made, they will quit and the playes will play here. Not gonna happen. It's been known for years and still nothing happened, and it's for a reason. Since lawsuits cost money and there need to be a profit made. Logic. :D An there i wasted my minute of forum time. Not gonna spend more. For the actual suggestions of the game i suggest people read back to Mazz first and second post. +1 also Alike :) And for Bran: somone quoted, and it's not me: "Bran is a show off with nothing to show off" Prove us wrong :)
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Mittwoch, 31. August 2016, 05:04

Some thoughts in random order...

I have to laugh when I hear people complain about cop...well no one likes to get one hit by an exranger either so get over it...personally it makes my day when I get to waste a rogues(or any toons) ignition by infinitely copping it(doesn't happen very often but, love it when it does...I have embraced the fact that as an NS I am not gonna kill anybody so then I have become a support toon with my role which is annoying the hell out of people by copping them. Not every toon can be a killer like rouges...

I do think there needs to be a few class balances...elementalist...highlanders...I might throw wizards in as a class that needs some kind of help...maybe not as much as the others...

You can't remove ignition from pvp unless you also remove all the large pools of hp which would thoroughly tick off all the people that paid real money to get their toons where they are. If you removed ignition you are going to have to increase damage otherwise no one will die...

I started out this game pve and really didn't want to pvp but, I do enjoy the sieges even as they are now. I enjoyed the long grinding process but, presto chango level up to 185 in a few weeks has taken over :/ oh well. There are things to like about leveling faster and things to hate...I like that it does not cost me a lot to level a toon up now...I hate that I cant sell all those mid sets of armor I have cause no one needs them anymore... I miss those drop farming parties I use to have in lust trum trying to drop the impossible armor sets...

I like the idea of party raids but, unfortunately there are not enough people to party with atm. I am fortunate to have a second computer I can party with other wise there would be a lot of times I would have to grind party less...

Some new content would be great if we could get it...something for high levels to do after lab...

One thing I have learned about the internet is you can't really stop someone from doing something if they really want to... trying to stop those people is like catching water with a strainer...They can pull out the big stick and whack someone but, they will close up shop and open up somewhere else on the internet....not sure what the answer is there...The fact that these things may be happening across countries borders just complicates things...

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Mittwoch, 31. August 2016, 12:06


Don't we all love being a tank getting one hit (thank you ignition).

Well :D I love this part, when a bunch of people stand at crystal like a statue aka stationary target waiting for the person with the gun to just take them down its understandable you'll get 1 hit, but its actually not 1 hit, cause of the little delay it takes 2-3 hits with ign :D
People who stand at crystal and not move its like when a guy comes in a circus and comes to that stand with ducks u shoot for reward :D

And, you mocking me for believing into many people coming back, I don't expect 120918298 people to log in right away after 1 email of asking them to come back. It takes time to rebuild a brand to its former glory. Barunson has the licence on Last Chaos, their game info has been stolen, it is their duty to sue the people who own private servers with their stolen game data, it's not a hard thing to do, sue people for stealin stuff. This is an old game, true story, but many people, I believe, and I know in my case(I came back when I saw stuff improving), would come back playing if they knew the conditions, LC lacks people to play. Pservs are a short station for the LC players tht played the LC where Barunson gave patches at the start of the game, when it was more of a party game than a solo game. The people who sticked around even with Barunsons poor desire to improve the game from time to time are the victims of their laziness, if only they read a thing called feedback and freakin shut down pservs with law suits, if TPB was taken down easy several dozen times and their servers with the data taken from them, how hard is it to do to a freakin 10 year old game... :pinch:
Then you are probably the only one who thinks sieges are fun. Apparently my guildies and me can't go anymore because of the time setting though, so we don't have a reason to log on at all , rip ;(

I'm sorry if you think that I was 'mocking' you, that was not my intention at all; again sorry if you felt like it. I just know that many people quit for ALOT of reasons and you can't fix or change those (or well seems like barunson doesn't want to). Also I do not think that barunson cares about the illegal servers especially because there are way too many of them out there to take care of. And once those server files are out in the world wide web it is a long process to get them removed & even then you can never remove them completely. And people surely wouldn't come back if they closed them (again they had a REASON to go there).

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Donnerstag, 1. September 2016, 00:04

How about instead of trying to get old players who have clearly moved on back into the game, we make the game new player friendly by increasing gold drops, item drops, increasing prizes at events, making forum events like there were back at Aeria, which didn't require you to be the quickest at typing, the luckiest by guessing answer, etc... The game simply isn't going anywhere until we get new people who want to play the game, and not by investing hundreds of dollars into the game when the game is as dead as it is now. Maybe they'll put money into the game when they see that population popping like it was back in 2012.

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Donnerstag, 1. September 2016, 00:41

Maybe they'll put money into the game when they see that population popping like it was back in 2012.
Things like increasing gold drops, item drops, event rewards won't cause this boom in the population that you seem to think it will. Those issues are so minimal when it comes down to the issues that have caused the population to diminish. Minor remedies just aren't going to attract new players or old ones back to the game.
You basically just quoted 2 different points of my former post and combined them into 1. I'm saying increasing these things will get new players into the game, hopefully getting themselves more cash and using that cash to help them get further into the game, no where did I say that increasing these things magically add thousands of people in the game.

Edit: Minor remedies are the step in the right direction towards getting new players to play, old not so much...
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Freitag, 30. September 2016, 16:51

In light of recent events...bump :whistling:

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Sonntag, 2. Oktober 2016, 01:51

I think at this point it is clear that barunson has no intention to do something to this game, i love lc and have played from 2007 or so. I have seen many people come go and leave. This game has dropped in quality ever since the transfer to gamigo (obviously aeria sold off their rights to publish for a reason, read as: game isnt going anywhere.) Aeria now? They have lots of quality games so clearly they are smart on cutting off a lost cause which LC is. When is the last time Barunson has released an actual update? The newest thing is some armor sets that I saw on the internet before they even released it. (I can't say where or anything but know those armor sets were "leaked" before official even released.)

How can Gamigo do business with a company like this? What is the logic really? It is like working with a partner who keeps 'dropping" your money. At some point they are dropping too much and something is wrong. That is the real probler with all these 'other' servers. How come though these places can do better content and new stuff while barunson takes over a year to add an armor set and a MC combo.

I think this is quite a clear picture they have painted: barunson has no intention of fixing anything or addressing their leaks. They are focused on their new game which uses LC assets even (hahah seriously they do! They are making a new game that uses LC sounds and some models.)

At some point we as players have to call out and say: Hey whats up? Wheres the content? Wheres the fixes? Its been a couple years now .

LC is just money in their pockets until players stop buying cash.

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I think at this point it is clear that barunson has no intention to do something to this game, i love lc and have played from 2007 or so. I have seen many people come go and leave. This game has dropped in quality ever since the transfer to gamigo (obviously aeria sold off their rights to publish for a reason, read as: game isnt going anywhere.) Aeria now? They have lots of quality games so clearly they are smart on cutting off a lost cause which LC is. When is the last time Barunson has released an actual update? The newest thing is some armor sets that I saw on the internet before they even released it. (I can't say where or anything but know those armor sets were "leaked" before official even released.)

How can Gamigo do business with a company like this? What is the logic really? It is like working with a partner who keeps 'dropping" your money. At some point they are dropping too much and something is wrong. That is the real probler with all these 'other' servers. How come though these places can do better content and new stuff while barunson takes over a year to add an armor set and a MC combo.

I think this is quite a clear picture they have painted: barunson has no intention of fixing anything or addressing their leaks. They are focused on their new game which uses LC assets even (hahah seriously they do! They are making a new game that uses LC sounds and some models.)

At some point we as players have to call out and say: Hey whats up? Wheres the content? Wheres the fixes? Its been a couple years now .

LC is just money in their pockets until players stop buying cash.

When you stick it to people. :D

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Sonntag, 2. Oktober 2016, 02:05

I'd have a look at this thread NEWS: "We have forwarded your feedback" is no valid answer anymore! I'm glad they're out of the picture as some of what you were saying is true.

Back to topic, what are some "basic" fixes/changes that you'd like to see implemented by the new developer team while they're learning the ropes? Mob XP changes? Skill cooldown adjustments? Maybe new seals for a dead on arrival armor set :rolleyes:

Edit: Sorry for being slow, I was biting my tongue a bit in the first part of my reply :whistling:

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Sonntag, 2. Oktober 2016, 03:36

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NEWS: "We have forwarded your feedback" is no valid answer anymore!

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Read the Reason of Editing: Sticking it to Alike like "Y u so slow...." :|:S
I have not read this actually! This is good news! This will stop many things. At least Gamigo knows that barunson is incompetent and took initiative. I will look forward to what is coming from them in the next few months.
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Sonntag, 2. Oktober 2016, 07:09

I say just fix the freaking annoying bugs first then worry about making changes...

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Sonntag, 2. Oktober 2016, 11:13

I say just fix the freaking annoying bugs first then worry about making changes...
But there are sooooo many !

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Sonntag, 2. Oktober 2016, 11:31

Considering how many events we have lately and IM which are under gamigo's control, don't hold ur breath up for miracles with game development.


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Sonntag, 2. Oktober 2016, 16:28

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Sonntag, 2. Oktober 2016, 16:44

I say just fix the freaking annoying bugs first then worry about making changes...
But there are sooooo many !

Which is why this should be the first order of business. It will also give a chance for the programmer(s) to become more acquainted with the code which will mean they will be less likely to break something when they introduce more content...
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