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Actually no, stun is way more usefull for PVP and pve than silence. Silence doesn't protect you against hits, a stun does and that's the whole idea of it.

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Actually no, stun is way more usefull for PVP and pve than silence. Silence doesn't protect you against hits, a stun does and that's the whole idea of it.

not when the skill dbuffs attack element and stuns.. complete stupid.. and yea silence is more usefull depends on your game.

Quoted from "The1AndOnly"

as aoe silence with dbuff would dbuff aswell but for stun its less usefull then silence besides with silence u prevent people useing skills upon u id rather be hit 10 times then get skilled on 10times ? allso for bosses stun activate ironwall silence doesnt and as its a dbuff the boss can be prevented to do that heavy dmg

Because no one plays the chars which have silence because silence is completely useless.

Furthermore, if you would find any cleric that uses the stun skill when fighting a boss ...then that cleric is deeply stupid because that skill is not meant to kill, cleric has it way easier to just take rather than stun bosses in PVE.

As for PVP again, stun is by far more useful, and the whole purpose of the skill is the stun, the ele debuff on it is in case stun misses.
you should first learn how playing cleric works rather than make suggestions which make no sense but ruin classes further.

As I have 2 Clerics, I think the best thing to do is to just fix up the code that makes up the class, while adding skills to increase Magic Attack, and Magic Hit Rate. And while Gamigo is at it, to make the Healer's defence system better. Both Cleric and Archer are very much squishy, defence wise.

Originally, Cleric was, and still is, a support class. But since an evasion patch was applied in 2008, all classes were suddenly able to solo the game. Including Cleric.

In my honest opinion cleric is one of the most overpowered classes in the game at the moment, because it can do massive damage that most classes cannot and it can tank more than any other class in the game is damage abs and barrier are active.
On a side note I do feel like their mana consumption is a little ridiculous

I would like to add also that their level 1 elemental defense buff is ridiculous, but I feel that level 2 elemental defense and attack jewels should not be a part of the game anyway

Quoted from "The1AndOnly"

again since u say this is pissing me off u aint got a clue for what your actualy saying as far as for live game i dont kno where u play or get your info your wrong. stun miss dbuff doesnt apply, stun land people cure it and dbuff gone aswell.. can u please stop post stuff if u aint got the idea of what stuff does ?
allso for stun u have all melee classes and ex rangers for silence u have 2 arch witch and archer.. get your info straight ty

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I think what Una is referring to is if the Stun is resisted by the target, not if the skill completely misses. As far as I know, if a skill completely misses its' target, none of the effects are applied, however if a skill is resisted then the secondary effect still takes effect. A player with high Stun Resistance can still have the debuff itself on him without the Stun effect being active, but in that scenario the Elemental Debuff would still be active.

Regardless if that's it or not, I'd rather keep it a Stun skill, as I'd rather Stun people completely than simply reduce their damage output. The one benefit I could see from being able to take more hits would be if my aim was to trigger Damage Absorbtion or Solid Body, but even then what would the point of that be if the target can't move anyway?